Friday, April 17, 2009

Define Irony

On the same day that the United States is trying to deport an 89-year-old Nazi prison guard for engaging in torture and following orders he shouldn't have, President Obama says that CIA agents will not be charged for engaging in torture and following orders they shouldn't have.

3 comments:

Michael Turner said...

The Nazi guy played a role in the killing of tens of thousands of people, supposedly. None of them were threats to Nazi national security, it was simply genocide.

I don't think the CIA guys are accused of killing anyone, they were interrogating people with high potential threat capacity to the USA. They didn't kill anyone.

The Nazi probably didn't physicall torture people, He just proabably told groups of 50 or so to take off tall their clothes because they were going to be hearded into the next room in a few minutes and then they would all die. Maybe th at's mental torture and anguish, but it is certainly genocide.

The CIA culprits did not practice genocide, but sought to prevent it by leaving no visible scars on theiri subjects, but giving them horrible nightmares and convincing them of imperitive death. Torture? Probably, but not the torture of physically maiming or crippling someone.
Hang Bush. Let the others go.

Jil Wrinkle said...

I'm not really sure what the nazi did. I didn't bother to check. I'll assume you're right.

I'll also assume that this person, giving the thumbs up while posing with an Iraqi whom he tortured to death is one of the "others" whom you think should be "let go". (source), and yes, I'm sure that those dog bites don't leave visible scars.

Jil Wrinkle said...

"No visible scars."

But defense lawyers say it is unconscionable to ignore Mr. Padilla's military detention because' among other reasons, it altered him in a way that will impinge on his trial.

Dr. Angela Hegarty, director of forensic psychiatry at the Creedmoor Psychiatric Center in Queens, N.Y., who examined Mr. Padilla for a total of 22 hours in June and September, said in an affidavit filed Friday that he "lacks the capacity to assist in his own defense."

"It is my opinion that as the result of his experiences during his detention and interrogation, Mr. Padilla does not appreciate the nature and consequences of the proceedings against him, is unable to render assistance to counsel, and has impairments in reasoning as the result of a mental illness, i.e., post-traumatic stress disorder, complicated by the neuropsychiatric effects of prolonged isolation," Dr. Hegarty said in an affidavit for the defense.

"During questioning, he often exhibits facial tics, unusual eye movements and contortions of his body," Mr. Patel said. "The contortions are particularly poignant since he is usually manacled and bound by a belly chain when he has meetings with counsel."
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